republicans decided they don't want to make a fan of debt ceiling. it sounds like the sequester will happen. we don't know how long it goes in effect for. when they go in effect, it will be painful and there will be the pressure on republicans to come to the table to negotiate what the president calls the balanceed approach. to do spending cuts. maybe not. we don't know. republicans seem to think that at least getting the cuts would level the playing field. may will go forward in government shutdown debate from there. i think the sequester is going to happen. >> bret: back in novembe november 2011, when -- we have all be through this, where sequester was proposed by the white house a something that it would be so bad that the super committee had to get their job on the. it didn't happen. after the super committee disbands, that night, the president says this -- >> already, some in congress try to undue the spending cut. my message is simple. no i will veto any evident to get rid of the automaticbe it was cut. no easy off-ramp on this one. we need to